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Posted by: mack on 14 April 2009 at 3.11am
hiya garry.
there are two men listed on your regent road memorial project,s.hadley+c.dawson
could these be them.

pte 16604 george dawson
1st border regt
enlisted 7-11-14
aged 20yrs 10mths
son of minnie dawson,51 crowther st,salford
formerly lived at 74 hollinwood st,salford
killed in action,1-7-16

pte 26017 charles hadley
6th south lancs regt
enlisted 5-8-15
aged 33
married miss elizabeth lloyd,at stowell memorial church,on 3-8-07
children,edith 22-1-08. lilian 19-8-12
resided 2 rudman st,salford
occupation,labourer
shot in the neck,on 18-4-17,sent to 31st british stationary hospital at sheike saad,died of wounds,on 7-5-17
buried in sheike saad old british cemetery,26 miles north east of kut
personal effect returned to his wife
ID disc
cap badge
cards
his body was exhumed and reburied,in amara war cemetery

mack

> This message was edited at 04:16 on 14 April 2009 by mack
Posted by: mack on 14 April 2009 at 4.22am
19507 john,henry dorber
6th south lancs regt
enlisted 10-6-15
aged 19
occupation,clerk
son of richard+grace of 35 regent square,salford
killed in action,19-4-16
ID disc returned to his mother

Posted by: mack on 14 April 2009 at 4.27am
SERVED
pte 97294 john gillbanks
51st manchesters
enlisted 1-8-18
aged 18
occupation,brass turner
32 regent square,salford
father,isaac

329339 joseph,william lambert
RE
enlisted 13-8-18
aged 18
occupation,telegraphist at the post office
25 regent square,salford
Posted by: shred on 14 April 2009 at 8.04pm
Mack,

You are a star, was working on Dawson and had the right man. Is the additional information from any place I can look into further? Have been through The Salford Reporter/Journal for all the war years with limited success.

Many thanks.

Best regards,

Garry
Posted by: mack on 14 April 2009 at 9.13pm
shred said:
Mack,

You are a star, was working on Dawson and had the right man. Is the additional information from any place I can look into further? Have been through The Salford Reporter/Journal for all the war years with limited success.

Many thanks.

Best regards,

Garry
hiya garry.
try the manchester evening news and the manchester evening chronicle,there are plenty of salford lads mentioned in the huge casualty lists.

mack
Posted by: mack on 14 April 2009 at 10.34pm
heres 7 more garry.
signaller 1838 william johnson
1/7th lancs fusiliers
enlisted 1914
crewe place,ordsall lane
KIA 21-6-15
aged 18

pte 3187 john,harold elwell
1/8th lancs fusiliers
17 east ordsall lane
KIA 7-8-15

1564 robert,james hamilton
1/8th lancs fusiliers
DOW 24-8-15
aged 19
rudman st,salford

CQMS 232 thomas brierley
1/8th lancs fusiliers
6 hyde st,tatton st,salford
died at egypt 31-8-15
married

gunner 15303 harry jones
RHA,10th anti aircraft section
6 tatton place,salford
wife louise+children
KIA 20-8-15
aged 33

Z/2052 fred metcalfe
4th rifle brigade
12 gurner st,ordsall lane
KIA france,on 14-5-15
aged 19

pte 2036 w.phipps
1/7th lancs fusiliers
DOW 1915
21 gertrude st,ordsall
this man is not listed in SDGW or on the CWGC,and he has no medal card
brother of 2038 john phipps[same address] later renumbered,as 282679,also 1/7th lancs fusiliers

mack
Posted by: shred on 14 April 2009 at 10.58pm
Mack,

None of the men in your last post are on my memorial but, "We will remember them".

Iwould be interested in finding out more about W Phipps and will contact you with any information.

All the best.

Garry
Posted by: Julie on 15 April 2009 at 12.28pm
Hi Both,

There is a further snippet in "Hell Let Loose" re Pte John PHIPPS. (page43). He became a Corporal and was awarded the MM & Bar for action in 1918.

He was reported to have died of his wounds on 8th Aug 1915 and his poor mother was notified (at 21 Gertrude St). But later, a Red Cross nurse wrote to tell her that he was a patient at Winwick!

(He worked as a bottler at M/c Brewery, Stretford Rd apparently).

I just wonder if the W PHIPPS was the one who died earlier??

Regards
Julie
Posted by: shred on 16 April 2009 at 10.51pm
Julie,

Thanks for the extra info.

Searched Ancestry and NA using service number only, second name only... nothing. Tried census no W Phipps in salford 1901 and 1911, can find John but no W.

Will keep looking.

Garry

> This message was edited at 22:57 on 16 April 2009 by shred
Posted by: redges on 22 April 2009 at 7.11pm
George Dawson is also rememberred on the famly grave headstone at Weaste (L-1183)
Regards
Gerald
Posted by: shred on 22 April 2009 at 11.04pm
Gerald,

Thanks for the additional information. Will visit Weaste at the weekend and take photo. Do you have an interest in George?


Regards,

Garry
Posted by: redges on 23 April 2009 at 12.37pm
I am a ’Friend of Salford Cemeteries Trust’ amnd we have a data base of over 900 World War heros rememberred on Weaste headstones
Posted by: Julie on 23 April 2009 at 1.59pm
Why on earth isn’t it on-line or posted here??

Questions come up regularly about WW graves. Why not share the information that your group has? It would help people enormously!

Regards
Julie
Posted by: shred on 23 April 2009 at 9.44pm
Gerald,

As per Julie, I am also gobsmacked. If you can get this informaton to me, or I could collect, I could make sure that the information is aailable to all. If there are issues with doing this please contact me through the "contactbutton" on my website.

Regards,

Garry

> This message was edited at 21:45 on 23 April 2009 by shred
Posted by: redges on 24 April 2009 at 4.21pm
We’ve only recently finished collecting the information and this will be available to all very soon on our web site.
(Weasteheritagetrail.co.uk)
It’s taken over two years to round each headstone at Weaste.
Anybody needing a check can contact me direct at:
tidtracer@blueyonder.co.uk

Regards
Gerald

Posted by: shred on 24 April 2009 at 9.36pm
Gerald,

May I be the first to thank you and the ’Friends of Salford Cemeteries Trust’ for your work over the last two years. I eagerly await the web site and know that your offer of checking for members will be greatly appreciated.

Once again thank you.

Warm regards,

Garry

> This message was edited at 21:37 on 24 April 2009 by shred
Posted by: Julie on 24 April 2009 at 10.55pm
Excellent news Gerald!

Some lovely photos of monuments on the site at the moment. Look forward to seeing the "finished product", as I’m sure it will have lots of visitors. It’s already on my "favourites" list!

Regards
Julie
Posted by: mack on 27 April 2009 at 3.35am
hiya garry
is this the r.cragg,from your memorial[served]
pte 7206 robert cragg
enlisted 30-7-1903
1st loyal north lancs
aged 19
served in south africa 1904
transferred to army reserve,29-7-06
occupation,labourer in a timber mill
religion,RC
rejoined the 1st batt on the outbreak of war,went to france,on 12-8-14
shot in the left knee,on 26-9-14,sent to 10th gen hospital,and invalided home,28-9-14,on the hospital ship,SS asturias
posted to 3rd loyal north lancs,on 16-3-15
discharged from the army,on 22-4-16,cause of discharge,CATERACTS,originated after being struck by lightning in south africa in 1904
age on discharge,32yrs
rejoined the army,on 23-3-17
16th south lancs regt,No3 trench mortar battery
sgt 62434
resided.41 oxford st,regent rd,salford

regards.mack big smile
Posted by: mack on 27 April 2009 at 1.06pm
garry.
are the inscriptions on the memorial hard to read,you list a man called L.HULME lancs fusiliers.
the only L.HULME who died in WW1,from your town,was this man.
SS/109258[dev] lewis hulme
1st class stoker
HMS alert
mesopotamian river boat flotilla
killed in action,30-11-16
aged 27
son of james+eleanor,188 ordsall lane salford

mack
Posted by: shred on 27 April 2009 at 10.06pm
Mack,

Thanks once again Robert Cragg is spot on as I have the inscription LNL (Loyal North Lancs).

I have seen the L Hulme who served with the Royal Navy but memorial clearly states LF. Did someone give the wrong details... write it down wrongly.. enscribed wrongly???

Will keep digging.

Cheers,

Garry
Posted by: mack on 28 April 2009 at 10.19am
shred said:
Mack,

Thanks once again Robert Cragg is spot on as I have the inscription LNL (Loyal North Lancs).

I have seen the L Hulme who served with the Royal Navy but memorial clearly states LF. Did someone give the wrong details... write it down wrongly.. enscribed wrongly???

Will keep digging.

Cheers,

Garry
hiya garry.
i think the w.lyman,whos listed on your memorial,was william lyman,63 crowther st,ordsall,son of william,h+elizabeth lyman,pretty sure he was the cousin of john lyman,who isnt mentioned on the memorial,john was only 18 when he sailed for gallipoli,he served all the way through the campaign,and helped to drive the turks out of egypt,and then fought in france,he didnt go home till may 1919.
1668 john lyman
1/2nd east lancs field ambulance,RAMC
enlisted 24-2-13
aged 17
160 tatton st,ordsall
parents,john+susanna
cotton operative,formerly worked at lloyds packing warehouse
sailed for egypt 10-9-14
renumbered 1917[352055]
in may 1919,he was serving at the 48th casualty clearing station at dunkirk,when he recieved orders to proceed to england for demobilisation,sailed for home,on 18-5-19.

mack
transferred to classZ 16-6-19


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